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		<title>By: What&#8217;s a global niche? A psychic solution to your global identity crisis!</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s a global niche? A psychic solution to your global identity crisis!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Many of us know the bittersweet liminality of living between multiple worlds, and the soul-sprung righteousness of refusing to settle on just [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Passion plays &#171; expat+HAREM, the global niche</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Passion plays &#171; expat+HAREM, the global niche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week Dialogue2010 participant Elmira Bayrasl? shared the anger that keeps her hybrid. Rather than assimilate or choose one social group to belong to, the daughter of Turkish immigrants [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very powerful post, Elmira! I think we&#039;re conditioned to think of negative and positive for certain behavior and feelings, but I think they have the potential for either until activated, used in a certain manner. Anger has propelled me through some important phases and helped me to separate out motivating impulses from distractions when I really wanted something, needed to claim something as my own. It&#039;s the side of me that flares up when I hear of injustices... it inspires me to do something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very powerful post, Elmira! I think we&#8217;re conditioned to think of negative and positive for certain behavior and feelings, but I think they have the potential for either until activated, used in a certain manner. Anger has propelled me through some important phases and helped me to separate out motivating impulses from distractions when I really wanted something, needed to claim something as my own. It&#8217;s the side of me that flares up when I hear of injustices&#8230; it inspires me to do something.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmira Bayrasli</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmira Bayrasli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow ladies!  I&#039;m sorry that I didn&#039;t get angry sooner.  Sand Gets In My Eyes and Diana, welcome to this forum and thanks for your energy.  I&#039;m heartened to see that my post resonated with so many - in a positive way.  It&#039;s always tricky to go out there and talk about things that aren&#039;t necessarily socially acceptable. Anger is one of them.  Excited to continue this dialogue and invite you to bring others as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow ladies!  I&#8217;m sorry that I didn&#8217;t get angry sooner.  Sand Gets In My Eyes and Diana, welcome to this forum and thanks for your energy.  I&#8217;m heartened to see that my post resonated with so many &#8211; in a positive way.  It&#8217;s always tricky to go out there and talk about things that aren&#8217;t necessarily socially acceptable. Anger is one of them.  Excited to continue this dialogue and invite you to bring others as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith van Praag</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith van Praag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elmira, As I tweeted to you before, your post made me smile. Yes, girl, I thought, hang on to that anger, it&#039;s good, self-claiming energy.</description>
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		<title>By: Catherine Bayar</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Bayar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elmira, LOVE your energy here! Yes, I know this feeling well - I call it &#039;righteous indignation&#039;, and I wear it like a shield when I need to. It&#039;s not to be confused (like some around me do) with the anger that masks fear. It&#039;s all about being true to myself, recognizing that people can live in and between multiple cultures, yet keeping that smile on my face when I&#039;m respectfully not submitting to what&#039;s &#039;expected&#039; of me, if it&#039;s not what I want. And honestly, I now experience this feeling more in the US, when I&#039;m eager to proclaim my expatriatism, than when I&#039;m in Turkey, where I&#039;m obviously foreign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elmira, LOVE your energy here! Yes, I know this feeling well &#8211; I call it &#8216;righteous indignation&#8217;, and I wear it like a shield when I need to. It&#8217;s not to be confused (like some around me do) with the anger that masks fear. It&#8217;s all about being true to myself, recognizing that people can live in and between multiple cultures, yet keeping that smile on my face when I&#8217;m respectfully not submitting to what&#8217;s &#8216;expected&#8217; of me, if it&#8217;s not what I want. And honestly, I now experience this feeling more in the US, when I&#8217;m eager to proclaim my expatriatism, than when I&#8217;m in Turkey, where I&#8217;m obviously foreign.</p>
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		<title>By: Passion plays &#171; Furthering the Worldwide Cultural Conversation</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Passion plays &#171; Furthering the Worldwide Cultural Conversation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week Dialogue2010 participant Elmira Bayrasli shared the anger that keeps her hybrid. Rather than assimilate or choose one social group to belong to, the daughter of Turkish immigrants [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sand Gets In my Eyes</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Sand Gets In my Eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing what so many of us experience. As an American who has lived in Saudi Arabia for most of the last decade, I go through peaks and valleys when it comes to anger and righteousness, and even righteous anger! (as well as all the other - emotions, of course!) As Anastashia said, it is the defense mechanism we keep with us as expats. Thanks again for helping me frame the issue in my own head better! SGIME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing what so many of us experience. As an American who has lived in Saudi Arabia for most of the last decade, I go through peaks and valleys when it comes to anger and righteousness, and even righteous anger! (as well as all the other &#8211; emotions, of course!) As Anastashia said, it is the defense mechanism we keep with us as expats. Thanks again for helping me frame the issue in my own head better! SGIME</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Strinati Baur</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Strinati Baur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  This is powerful. 

 When I lived in Germany I had a very good Turkish girlfriend.  She was the epitome of everything a person could love about Turkey -- beautiful beyond measure, educated, sharp as the sharpest tack, deep, a moderate Muslim with a very ethereal and loving take on her religion. She was married to a non-religious, educated man, who, despite all of the outward appearance of being modern, controlled her like a hawk. Abuse was present, at first emotional and psychological, and later, when that no longer worked, physical.  In our friendship, I went through the gamut of emotions, especially anger, at her inability to extract herself quickly enough from the marriage.  I ended up, during one trip to Istanbul , stewing in my own anger and sadness as I watched her from my very American perspective trying to take a measured approach to the abuse.  She had so much more to consider than I could have ever realized - including her own family&#039;s reaction to what was happening.  

During the same trip, I met several other women in her social group, and this was when I started (just started) to realize the importance of feminine friendships in her world - the solace other women offered, the solidarity, the warmth, the love, the physical closeness (of a strictly pure nature -- arm holding, hugging, the like) and how that part of her world saved her.  

And I realized how little I actually knew about what she had to go through to survive, let alone thrive, in her beautiful, complex culture.  

I understand your anger.  I feel it to a lesser degree here in Italy, because I was naive enough to think that being Italian American actually had something in common with being Italian, which it does not. And Italian and American culture are not as diametrically opposed as Turkish and American culture.  I think your anger is healthy and something to work through in this complicated (yet fascinating) lifestyle.

Warmest regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  This is powerful. </p>
<p> When I lived in Germany I had a very good Turkish girlfriend.  She was the epitome of everything a person could love about Turkey &#8212; beautiful beyond measure, educated, sharp as the sharpest tack, deep, a moderate Muslim with a very ethereal and loving take on her religion. She was married to a non-religious, educated man, who, despite all of the outward appearance of being modern, controlled her like a hawk. Abuse was present, at first emotional and psychological, and later, when that no longer worked, physical.  In our friendship, I went through the gamut of emotions, especially anger, at her inability to extract herself quickly enough from the marriage.  I ended up, during one trip to Istanbul , stewing in my own anger and sadness as I watched her from my very American perspective trying to take a measured approach to the abuse.  She had so much more to consider than I could have ever realized &#8211; including her own family&#8217;s reaction to what was happening.  </p>
<p>During the same trip, I met several other women in her social group, and this was when I started (just started) to realize the importance of feminine friendships in her world &#8211; the solace other women offered, the solidarity, the warmth, the love, the physical closeness (of a strictly pure nature &#8212; arm holding, hugging, the like) and how that part of her world saved her.  </p>
<p>And I realized how little I actually knew about what she had to go through to survive, let alone thrive, in her beautiful, complex culture.  </p>
<p>I understand your anger.  I feel it to a lesser degree here in Italy, because I was naive enough to think that being Italian American actually had something in common with being Italian, which it does not. And Italian and American culture are not as diametrically opposed as Turkish and American culture.  I think your anger is healthy and something to work through in this complicated (yet fascinating) lifestyle.</p>
<p>Warmest regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Anastasia Ashman</title>
		<link>http://wondermentwoman.com/2010/03/dialogue-2010-ill-take-my-anger-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia Ashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Elmira. I can identify with a righteousness-to-be-hybrid rather than assimilate to either culture...I feel it as an expat, and it&#039;s been a cornerstone of my survival. A defensive version of expatriatism, I&#039;ve called it. Not necessarily bending to the expectations of my surroundings. You&#039;re right, that defense mechanism not only kicks in but is kept in place by a low level anger about pressure to live and be a certain way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Elmira. I can identify with a righteousness-to-be-hybrid rather than assimilate to either culture&#8230;I feel it as an expat, and it&#8217;s been a cornerstone of my survival. A defensive version of expatriatism, I&#8217;ve called it. Not necessarily bending to the expectations of my surroundings. You&#8217;re right, that defense mechanism not only kicks in but is kept in place by a low level anger about pressure to live and be a certain way.</p>
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